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When she said it was easier to believe that she was crazy instead of believing that someone she loved would hurt her so much ... yeah, that.

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It was such a powerful and painful insight. I’ve felt that too

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This breaks my heart but it isn't unexpected. For those clinging to control, threats and the infliction of pain are too often the script.

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Lingerie Of The Month was the unofficial sponsor of this week's episode? Curious to see how the follow-up stickers promotion will work.

The momentum continues in any case. Well done. This unchecked marital gaslighting doubles down on the low-to-the-ground position of silence and isolation too many wives must assume to survive... Lyz, you and your guests are turning around the vocabulary for conceptualizing traditional marriage where all parties may inform the reality. Thank you. I always learn a lot. Flame on!

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Haha I should have asked them to sponsor the episode except I HATED all that lingerie

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For sure, it should be a product or service in which you believe. Eventually, a This Adult Beverage Recipe Brought To You By...? It's very important to stay hydrated this time of year.

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A bourbon distillery but that won’t keep you hydrated!

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There is so much in this episode to think about, and what I'm reflecting on is just how many of us grow up with parents whose relationship(s)/marriage(s) are not good examples for us to follow.

They are flawed models and sometimes they are so flawed that they are useless. Your marriage can be different than your parents' but that doesn't mean it is good.

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And sometimes when you look around your WHOLE family (not just your parents), as well as the ex's, you just might find zero good examples.

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Yeah I’m an adult now. I know a lot of adults in adult relationships and I still really don’t see any relationships I want to emulate. Maybe we just have to forge what is right for ourselves

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And there are so many useful things that could be taught in school ... if we ever survive and get past the whole book-banning thing.

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I’d rather just have school teach real sex ed. I don’t need them in the business of relationship management

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Alongside home-ec, typing, English, and history classes, I could have used one about what abuse looks like and what it doesn't look like. (Or what good or bad relationships look like.) I certainly wasn't learning that anywhere else. Real sex ed is great and should be connected to information about consent, which also has to do with relationships.

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My current partner and I talk about this, and since I'm a widow, we have always had these discussions in front of the kids. Schools need to teach emotionally healthy relationships, friendships and otherwise. That may get them in trouble with some parents, but too bad. My partner is very open about how based on his parents, he thought marriage was supposed to contain a fair amount of problems and yelling. He had 15 years of that. We still can't believe our luck.

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Lyz truly reframes the experience of marriage in way that makes sense to me finally. I feel SEEN.

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I’m so glad to hear this!!

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I want to be friends with both of you! Thank you for the honest discussion. It was beautiful and so relatable.

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I haven't listened yet but I'm really stoked about your partnership. As a reformed theater kid at 40 who hasn't gone to an improv show in about 15 years, I credit my improv classes in high school for so much about who I am now. Yes, and forever

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